RefHannah Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I came here to find out what happened with Vengeance but to my surprise it hasn't been discussed. I ran into an old Hockey dad friend of mine today, and he said the entire Vengeance Illuminati has suddenly left that organization. These are the “Five Families” that created that organization back when the 08s and 09s were mites. They were Never Pens’ers and threw their money at creating a team to compete with PPE. They hated everything about the Pens. They didn’t want their kids hockey team being controlled by anybody else but themselves, so they picked who coached the teams and which players made the teams. Fast forward to today. More than half of the 08s after coming off a trip to Nationals and a win over PPE at districts, suddenly left the team. And wait, where did these 08 and 09 Never Pens’ers go?? You can't make this up! They went to Pens Elite. I really wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see the rosters with my own eyes. So what happened over there? Sounds like some people lost a power struggle. Did someone with deeper pockets than them come in and build the fancy locker room and force them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) . Edited June 1 by TheOneGuy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 10 hours ago, Danner27 said: Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? DJ Stubenrauch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 bet they left bc their little johnny might get seen at PPE. PPE is known nation wide not matter who they lose to. 99 percent of teams west of say MICHIGAN have zero clue who the PGH Vengeance even are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, PUCKCOVID19 said: bet they left bc their little johnny might get seen at PPE. PPE is known nation wide not matter who they lose to. 99 percent of teams west of say MICHIGAN have zero clue who the PGH Vengeance even are. Are there teams west of Illinois? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldoghouse Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/11/2023 at 8:59 AM, Danner27 said: Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? The guy that "ran the little gym and tried to coach "junior hockey" is the guy that TheOneGuy called "One of PGHs best trainers." Meanwhile, he got kicked out of his own gym and cancels training last minute when the weather is nice to go on his boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zam Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 You got two kinds of weather in Pittsburgh, hockey weather and boat weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) On 5/11/2023 at 7:05 PM, Tendymom said: Edited June 1 by TheOneGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) On 5/13/2023 at 9:51 AM, bulldoghouse said: Edited June 1 by TheOneGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) . Edited June 1 by TheOneGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/19/2023 at 11:15 AM, TheOneGuy said: I heard that person likes to threaten people because he’s a cop and people are afraid to say something. It’s really sad actually. Facts....😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zam Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 The story I heard is those Vengeance families somehow did the Renegades organization dirty. And since the Veng is basically a subsidiary of the Renegades, (they aren't a USA hockey sanctioned organization themselves) they rely on them to roster their teams. The Renegades were going to put an end to that deal and cut the families out. They tried to move their teams to several other organizations but nobody took them. In the end the "Five families" abandoned ship and did what they could to try and sink the ship as they left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) On 5/28/2023 at 7:08 PM, zam said: Edited June 1 by TheOneGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zam Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Uh oh. "One Guy" it looks like you have been silenced! Let us know you are alright. I hope you didn't get cement shoes and taken down to the Allegheny, courtesy of the Ven boys. 😬 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyparent101 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 What's the deal with the '07 (16U) Vengeance for 2023-2024? Did they pull kids from the folded Esmark and SAHA teams to bolster/revamp their lineup? Do they have legitimate AAA roster for this upcoming season or is the team full of faux AAA players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMU Alum Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 It's a lot of the SHAHA kids that didn't go back to AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, hockeyparent101 said: What's the deal with the '07 (16U) Vengeance for 2023-2024? Did they pull kids from the folded Esmark and SAHA teams to bolster/revamp their lineup? Do they have legitimate AAA roster for this upcoming season or is the team full of faux AAA players? so Yuri team folded huh. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley PK Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Hahaha. Here we go with off the rails rumors. Yuri actually has a pretty talented team at 16U. He didn't fold.. The 16U Vengeance team is going to be better than last year as well. They picked up a few Esmark kids from last year's 15U team who just wanted a change. The SHAHA kids that went there are pretty good players as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Stanley PK said: picked up a few Esmark kids from last year's 15U team who just wanted a change Probably wanted a change from the two dad's who run the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 By the looks of things 16AAA and 16AA in Pittsburgh should be a little more competitive with Shaha dropping out at 16 and 18 AAA. Seemed to be a shakeup on most teams at that 16U in the area. 16U AAA Looking like Pens, Esmark and Vengance should be at the upper end. 16U AA should be Mt Lebo, North Pitt and Renegades pushing the upper end of AA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 8 hours ago, Birddog said: By the looks of things 16AAA and 16AA in Pittsburgh should be a little more competitive with Shaha dropping out at 16 and 18 AAA. Seemed to be a shakeup on most teams at that 16U in the area. 16U AAA Looking like Pens, Esmark and Vengance should be at the upper end. 16U AA should be Mt Lebo, North Pitt and Renegades pushing the upper end of AA. I thought the u16 remark team folded ? no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 16U Esmark was chosen before Vengeance. The only thing I heard was that they we’re holding a few spots open for imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihearthockey Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/22/2023 at 1:17 PM, Birddog said: By the looks of things 16AAA and 16AA in Pittsburgh should be a little more competitive with Shaha dropping out at 16 and 18 AAA. Seemed to be a shakeup on most teams at that 16U in the area. 16U AAA Looking like Pens, Esmark and Vengance should be at the upper end. 16U AA should be Mt Lebo, North Pitt and Renegades pushing the upper end of AA. 16u AA is going to be competitive. I'd add Steel City and Rebellion to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saucey Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/27/2023 at 6:10 PM, Ihearthockey said: 16u AA is going to be competitive. I'd add Steel City and Rebellion to the mix. Really? Was there a big influx of 07s into PAHL? It is usually pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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