RefHannah Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I came here to find out what happened with Vengeance but to my surprise it hasn't been discussed. I ran into an old Hockey dad friend of mine today, and he said the entire Vengeance Illuminati has suddenly left that organization. These are the “Five Families” that created that organization back when the 08s and 09s were mites. They were Never Pens’ers and threw their money at creating a team to compete with PPE. They hated everything about the Pens. They didn’t want their kids hockey team being controlled by anybody else but themselves, so they picked who coached the teams and which players made the teams. Fast forward to today. More than half of the 08s after coming off a trip to Nationals and a win over PPE at districts, suddenly left the team. And wait, where did these 08 and 09 Never Pens’ers go?? You can't make this up! They went to Pens Elite. I really wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see the rosters with my own eyes. So what happened over there? Sounds like some people lost a power struggle. Did someone with deeper pockets than them come in and build the fancy locker room and force them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Well where should I start? I’ll reply to your comments from bottom up. The locker room/new facility is a joke. The gym is small and half assed. The locker room is actually cool but the other locker rooms are a waste of space. It’s not even finished yet and they promised it last summer. What a joke. but they raised the cost $2k. Power struggle? Hahaha that dude that ran it but wasn’t running it but thought he was. You know the meathead everyone can’t stand. I heard he finally got the boot. The money man has an ego bigger than anyone I ever ever met. A group of us tried to help recruit for all levels and he said f everyone who doesn’t naturally want to come here. The other two weren’t bad guys and just left because their kids deserved to play on a real team. The 08’s are at the age where they need to move on or they will be stuck in a broken system. The 09’s had issues and collapsed before the season started. It goes deeper but I won’t post that here. no one talks about the 06’s, 07’s, 10’s, 11’s that all had issues and disbanded too. The 06’s dropped off the face of earth and D that runs the place didn’t give a shit. The 07’s fell to a AA status or maybe even A when they forced the coach out. The 2010’s lost their 2 best players and kept a coach that everyone hated. Speaking of that coach he forced out 9 kids in 3 years that were all better than most of their current team. But they were better than his son so no wonder they were forced out. It became pretty clear why they lost their 2 star players this year. Then you have the 2011’s that were the top team in the country and the entire team left 2 years ago. Then this year they were supposed to give Berky the 2010’s and that would have saved that team. There were kids coming from other states to play with the 2010’s until D decided to keep the coach and force Berky to coach the 11’s. We feel bad for him. One of PGHs best trainers got screwed by the organization. Give it time and more birth years will fold under the red buckets. The main problem with that place was the meat head that left. He tarnished their reputation all over the country on all levels. Their lack of communication, organization and not caring about developing the kids is why people left. If they would have tried or even cared a tad, they could have top 10 teams for 08’s, 09’s, 10’s, 11’s and more. Now they are lower than Esmark. it could have been a great thing for people but instead it’s the joke of the city. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 10 hours ago, Danner27 said: Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? DJ Stubenrauch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 bet they left bc their little johnny might get seen at PPE. PPE is known nation wide not matter who they lose to. 99 percent of teams west of say MICHIGAN have zero clue who the PGH Vengeance even are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, PUCKCOVID19 said: bet they left bc their little johnny might get seen at PPE. PPE is known nation wide not matter who they lose to. 99 percent of teams west of say MICHIGAN have zero clue who the PGH Vengeance even are. Are there teams west of Illinois? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldoghouse Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/11/2023 at 8:59 AM, Danner27 said: Excuse my knowledge of youth hockey these days - “meathead” - same guy that ran the little gym years ago & tried to coach “junior hockey” ? The guy that "ran the little gym and tried to coach "junior hockey" is the guy that TheOneGuy called "One of PGHs best trainers." Meanwhile, he got kicked out of his own gym and cancels training last minute when the weather is nice to go on his boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zam Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 You got two kinds of weather in Pittsburgh, hockey weather and boat weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/11/2023 at 7:05 PM, Tendymom said: DJ Stubenrauch I heard that person likes to threaten people because he’s a cop and people are afraid to say something. It’s really sad actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/13/2023 at 9:51 AM, bulldoghouse said: The guy that "ran the little gym and tried to coach "junior hockey" is the guy that TheOneGuy called "One of PGHs best trainers." Meanwhile, he got kicked out of his own gym and cancels training last minute when the weather is nice to go on his boat. Berky is actually really good. He might like going out on his boat, I don’t blame him, I would too! My kid never played for him so I can’t speak for his coaching abilities. But his skills training has helped my kid and a bunch of others. He didn’t get kicked out of his gym. The VengMafia just bought him or something like that. From what I’ve observed, they are mad that tons of red helmets left and they are trying to make a Berky exclusive to V players only. Bad move on their part because they could have used Berky as a marketing tool and recruited kids. Instead they are pushing kids to play for other teams and other cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGuy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 My prediction for MHR for their top teams that left. 11’s - 75-100 10’s - 40-60 09’s - 75-100 08’s - 20-40 07’s - 200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted Tuesday at 18:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:55 On 5/19/2023 at 11:15 AM, TheOneGuy said: I heard that person likes to threaten people because he’s a cop and people are afraid to say something. It’s really sad actually. Facts....😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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