PUCKCOVID19 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Pucks11 said: If it was the '10 team that may be true. A lot of those parents are getting ready to walk because of the coach. so your saying the parents dont like Mark Voit? Goes to show how retarded Vengeance parents are...... guys an amazing coach !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, PUCKCOVID19 said: so your saying the parents dont like Mark Voit? Goes to show how retarded Vengeance parents are...... guys an amazing coach !!! Great coaches coach ALL their kids, which apparently isn't happening. Parents are "retarded " as you would say because they want the coach to focus on all the kids and not just his own kid. ✔✔✔ Sorry hockey is a team sport not a me sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Pucks11 said: If it was the '10 team that may be true. A lot of those parents are getting ready to walk because of the coach. It was either the 07 or 06 team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 It’s the 06 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 22 hours ago, carroll81 said: Trade deadline. That's funny. Is there a salary cap too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Pucks11 said: If it was the '10 team that may be true. A lot of those parents are getting ready to walk because of the coach. I totally took this as a reference to the Renegades 2010 team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: I totally took this as a reference to the Renegades 2010 team. Maybe something with that age group in general. From what I have seen over the years parents are getting nuttier and nuttier at the younger age groups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Pucks11 said: Maybe something with that age group in general. From what I have seen over the years parents are getting nuttier and nuttier at the younger age groups. BOY ARE THEY IN FOR A SUPER LET DOWN, BUT DONT WORRY PPE ESMARK VENG WILL ALL KEEP FEEDING THESE PARENTS THE HOOK LINE AND SINKER UNTIL THE PARENTS ONE DAY COME TO THEMSELVES AND SEE LITTLE JOHNY IS JUST ANOTHER AVERAGE PGH KID 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKCHECKING Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:21 PM, Pucks11 said: Great coaches coach ALL their kids, which apparently isn't happening. Parents are "retarded " as you would say because they want the coach to focus on all the kids and not just his own kid. ✔✔✔ Sorry hockey is a team sport not a me sport. I hear he is a good skating coach but not a very good head coach. Half of 2010 team left last year because of the same issues, including a former NHL player who was his assistant, although i do not know if he left for the same reason as the "ret---ed" parents. It will be interesting to see if the Vengeance organization sides with the coach or the parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, BACKCHECKING said: I hear he is a good skating coach but not a very good head coach. Half of 2010 team left last year because of the same issues, including a former NHL player who was his assistant, although i do not know if he left for the same reason as the "ret---ed" parents. It will be interesting to see if the Vengeance organization sides with the coach or the parents. That is what I have heard. If his kids involved then the kid is all that matters but by himself he is good. That assistant coach supposedly left because it didn't look good on the Pens because said NHL player was on the Pens network and helping out another local team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Baxter Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I need everyone participating this thread to tone it down a notch. I've already removed one over the top post and if needed, I will either delete this whole thread or lock it if the crap continues. You can have disagreements and dislike other people / coaches on this forum but over the top bashing isn't needed OR PERMITTED. STATE THE FACTS and move on. Remember, me and my moderator will be the judges of what is unacceptable. We will not tolerate peoples KIDS being dragged into discussions. Honestly, I can't blame ANYONE for taking their child to wherever they want to play. It's not your business why so and so takes their kid from Org A to Org B. Let it go and let them do what they want. PB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Paul Baxter said: I need everyone participating this thread to tone it down a notch. I've already removed one over the top post and if needed, I will either delete this whole thread or lock it if the crap continues. You can have disagreements and dislike other people / coaches on this forum but over the top bashing isn't needed OR PERMITTED. STATE THE FACTS and move on. Remember, me and my moderator will be the judges of what is unacceptable. We will not tolerate peoples KIDS being dragged into discussions. Honestly, I can't blame ANYONE for taking their child to wherever they want to play. It's not your business why so and so takes their kid from Org A to Org B. Let it go and let them do what they want. PB Fair enough @Paul Baxter Respectfully, the point I want to make is there something to be said for a player / parent to quit a team they were a part of since summer time to join another team for that extra A just weeks before the rosters need to be finalized. If this player was my kid I would have politely said "no" and used it as a teaching moment for him to stay committed to his current teammates and finish the season, and if his desire was to play for that team next season that is what tryouts are for. No venom being thrown here, just an opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 hours ago, fafa fohi said: Fair enough @Paul Baxter Respectfully, the point I want to make is there something to be said for a player / parent to quit a team they were a part of since summer time to join another team for that extra A just weeks before the rosters need to be finalized. If this player was my kid I would have politely said "no" and used it as a teaching moment for him to stay committed to his current teammates and finish the season, and if his desire was to play for that team next season that is what tryouts are for. No venom being thrown here, just an opinion. Additionally in my opinion it's gross for teams to be trying to poach kids from other teams mid season to begin and especially to cut kids mid season (like the goalie situation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Baxter Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 9:00 AM, fafa fohi said: Fair enough @Paul Baxter Respectfully, the point I want to make is there something to be said for a player / parent to quit a team they were a part of since summer time to join another team for that extra A just weeks before the rosters need to be finalized. If this player was my kid I would have politely said "no" and used it as a teaching moment for him to stay committed to his current teammates and finish the season, and if his desire was to play for that team next season that is what tryouts are for. No venom being thrown here, just an opinion. No issue whatever with your comment above, or in this thread. Personally, I feel the same in regards to your comment above. @fafa fohi you're a valuable contributor and thanks for your input. The issue I dealt with on this thread was specific to one family and one poster, and that has been dealt with. It is fair game to talk about this sort of "poaching". I have heard of AAA and AA teams (mainly AAA) doing these shenanigans at the end of the year, so that is not new to me at all. What needs to happen is people need to be made aware of this situation and think twice about patronizing teams - specifically in my mind - that cut players on 12/31 (or thereabouts), and swap in another player. That is very wrong in my opinion, unless there was some medical issue that the player was done for the season. Cutting young kids on 12/31 to swap in another player in my opinion is harmful to all those involved but USA Hockey will never look into these issues. If my player was busting their butt to play on an AAA team and then suddenly gets cut on 12/31, that creates a horrible situation for that player to find another team and be eligible for playoffs/nationals/etc. Midam and USAH really should review these cases individually and grant waivers where needed to prevent these players that were cut at the last minute from not having a team to play for immediately. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 12/31/2021 at 12:27 PM, Paul Baxter said: Midam and USAH I think one thing everyone can agree on is that neither of these two entities seem to do their jobs which is making things right for the players. The almighty $$$ is first and foremost with both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey00 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 12/30/2021 at 6:36 PM, aaaahockey said: Additionally in my opinion it's gross for teams to be trying to poach kids from other teams mid season to begin and especially to cut kids mid season (like the goalie situation) is this why Vengeance 09 lost both goalies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 No worries - based on the other thread there will be two heading down the turnpike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsi Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 24 minutes ago, Hockey00 said: is this why Vengeance 09 lost both goalies The rumor is that one of them is moving to Florida, and the other was told he wasn't coming back and will be at SHAHA 09 pending the outcome of PPE tryouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Is it better to tell them they aren't coming back or collecting their tryout money and then sending them packing? Maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey00 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, dazedandconfused said: Is it better to tell them they aren't coming back or collecting their tryout money and then sending them packing? Maybe? definitely should be told they aren’t going to make it again so they can find another team-also trimming down players after 2 nights of tryouts would also help people move on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hky05 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/29/2022 at 9:58 AM, Corsi said: The rumor is that one of them is moving to Florida, and the other was told he wasn't coming back and will be at SHAHA 09 pending the outcome of PPE tryouts. haha. already promised spot before tryouts. what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 15 hours ago, Hky05 said: haha. already promised spot before tryouts. what a joke "Tryouts" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 3/29/2022 at 9:58 AM, Corsi said: The rumor is that one of them is moving to Florida, and the other was told he wasn't coming back and will be at SHAHA 09 pending the outcome of PPE tryouts. One is indeed moving to FL and the other i believe went to Esmark. He tried out for PPE and didn't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey00 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Tendymom said: One is indeed moving to FL and the other i believe went to Esmark. He tried out for PPE and didn't make it. one went to Florida alliance. One to esmark after being told not to try out at vengeance again. Possibly both pens goalies to vengeance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, Hockey00 said: one went to Florida alliance. One to esmark after being told not to try out at vengeance again. Possibly both pens goalies to vengeance ? It sure looks that way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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