fafa fohi Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RJUSHL said: Surprised NA lost. Was anyone at the game that could provide a recap? How do you see the Seneca Valley vs Peters Township matchup for the Penguins Cup? From what I could see, NA was rolling two lines most of the night with one player being on the ice 75-80% of the time which I do not know how that is humanly possible at this level. NA ran out of gas while Seneca mixed their lines to keep fresh legs in the mix. PT was dominant against PR and I would assume they are the heavy favorite vs Seneca but who knows? PT has lots of depth with some 9th and 10th graders contributing, as does Seneca. Should be interesting. Edited March 15, 2022 by fafa fohi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJUSHL Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, fafa fohi said: From what I could see, NA was rolling two lines most of the night with one player being on the ice 75-80% of the time which I do not know how that is humanly possible at this level. NA ran out of gas while Seneca mixed their lines to keep fresh legs in the mix. PT was dominant against PR and I would assume they are the heavy favorite vs Seneca but who knows? PT has lots of depth with some 9th and 10th graders contributing, as does Seneca. Should be interesting. I know PT has a freshman that is their top scorer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Racki Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Yes, running just two lines won't work. You can even go 1-2, 1,2 3 but they need a break in there. If it is a competitive game you usually won't get away with rolling just two lines. MAYBE four defensemen but not two lines up front. Especially centers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 TJ vs FR in AA final... the way it should be, it will be a great game for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS AA Thomas Jefferson 6 Penn Trafford 2 RMU Island Sports Tuesday 15-Mar 6:30 PM AA Franklin Regional 3 South Fayette 2 RMU Island Sports Tuesday 15-Mar 8:30 PM OT PENGUIN CUP FINALS AA Thomas Jefferson Franklin Regional UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 22-Mar 6:30 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Norwin vs Erie McDowell for A finals. both teams that won where deff underdogs and wanted it more. especially Erie. COULD they e the sleeper of A class to win it all? SURE hope so, would make a good story for the news papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS AA Thomas Jefferson 6 Penn Trafford 2 RMU Island Sports Tuesday 15-Mar 6:30 PM AA Franklin Regional 3 South Fayette 2 RMU Island Sports Tuesday 15-Mar 8:30 PM OT PENGUIN CUP FINALS AA Thomas Jefferson Franklin Regional UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 22-Mar 6:30 PM FLYERS CUP FINALS AA Pennridge Council Rock South Tuesday 22-Mar PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS AA W E IceLine Saturday 26-Mar 1:30 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS A Fox Chapel 4 Norwin 5 RMU Island Sports Wednesday 16-Mar 6:30 PM A McDowell 4 Quaker Valley 2 RMU Island Sports Wednesday 16-Mar 8:30 PM PENGUIN CUP FINALS A Norwin McDowell UPMC Lemieux Wednesday 21-Mar 8:45 PM FLYERS CUP FINALS A West Chester East Springfield IceLine Wednesday 21-Mar PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS A W E IceLine Saturday 26-Mar 11:00 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS AAA North Allegheny 1 Seneca Valley 2 RMU Island Sports Monday 14-Mar 6:30 PM AAA Pine-Richland 0 Peters Township 5 RMU Island Sports Monday 14-Mar 8:30 PM PENGUIN CUP FINALS AAA Peters Township Seneca Valley UPMC Lemieux Monday 21-Mar 6:30 PM FLYERS CUP FINALS AAA Malvern Prep St Josephs Prep Tuesday 22-Mar PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS AAA W E IceLine Saturday 26-Mar 4:00 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 @Pa Hockey are you sure about the March 26 date for state finals? That's not published anywhere that I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarampage Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack Handey said: @Pa Hockey are you sure about the March 26 date for state finals? That's not published anywhere that I can find. It's published on PIHL's homepage under Important Dates...the games will be played at Ice Line in Westchester. Here's the schedule: https://www.flyers-cup.org/schedule/day/league_instance/163061?subseason=804586 Edited March 17, 2022 by sarampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 And so it is! Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 PIHL Penguins Cup finals: Peters Township looks to defeat Seneca Valley a third time | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBLJ Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 It tough to beat a team 3 times in a year. I think Peters has the firepower to pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novos51 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Bishop Canevin vs Neshannock for D2 title. Neshannock Ringgold game was intense. Neshannock looking to go back to back. Two best goalies in D2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 53 minutes ago, Novos51 said: Bishop Canevin vs Neshannock for D2 title. Neshannock Ringgold game was intense. Neshannock looking to go back to back. Two best goalies in D2 We get it, your kid plays for neshannock. It’s that a real division ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novos51 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 43 minutes ago, Danner27 said: We get it, your kid plays for neshannock. It’s that a real division ? Ahhh…there it is. Coop hockey sucks guy. Shame we don’t live around a large urban area with lots of hockey. Just an FYI. We beat Cathederal prep in non section games twice and McDowell about a month ago. Want to grow hockey? Quit treating the areas that have to work hard to field teams like second class. I guarantee Canevin, Ringgold, Wilmington and Neshannock would have held their own in Single A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Good Luck to Neshannock and Canevin in the Championship Game. It is about growing hockey in Western Pennsylvania Good Luck to McDowell, Norwin Thomas Jefferson Franklin Regional Seneca Valley and Peters Township in the Penguins Cup and States. All of these are fine programs at different stages of development and should be celebrated regardless as these students achieve a lifetime goal - Congrats to all! Edited March 19, 2022 by Pa Hockey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadtobeerleague Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 10:50 PM, PUCKCOVID19 said: Norwin vs Erie McDowell for A finals. both teams that won where deff underdogs and wanted it more. especially Erie. COULD they e the sleeper of A class to win it all? SURE hope so, would make a good story for the news papers Erie - 2100 in grades 9-12 Norwin - 1600 in grades 9-12 Single A??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkowallis Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Theroadtobeerleague said: Erie - 2100 in grades 9-12 Norwin - 1600 in grades 9-12 Single A??? Only 25 skaters (23 boys and 2 girls) at McDowell for varsity and jv. We belong at A level for now but trying to build the program. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadtobeerleague Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, rkowallis said: Only 25 skaters (23 boys and 2 girls) at McDowell for varsity and jv. We belong at A level for now but trying to build This weird system does not exist for any other sport. McDowell can only get 23 boys out of more than 1000 to play ice hockey? There are football and soccer programs at the high school level that suck and lose every game because they just can’t get enough kids to play. They don’t move those schools down a classification. Don’t come at me with the “it’s expensive to play hockey” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Racki Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Theroadtobeerleague said: Erie - 2100 in grades 9-12 Norwin - 1600 in grades 9-12 Single A??? The problem with ice hockey is the cost. You may have 2100 students but how many can afford to play? It not like football where anyone can play at next to no cost. Ice hockey is a totally different animal. You can not go off school size alone. When PIHL did, you had teams in AAA getting blown out by 25 goals and organizations loosing teams because they got tired of getting blown out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 PIHL should look at the number of kids in a program as a factor in classification. The difference between programs that can field full varsity and JV teams and those that can’t is usually a pretty good indication as to strength of program. And the number of seniors a team lost from previous season should also be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Pretty sure all of those factors are used in "competitive formula". It may not be perfect, but no one has presented a better alternative since it started and I think the vast majority would agree it's better than the old alternative described by Racki 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Hockey Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Happy Hockey Fan said: PIHL should look at the number of kids in a program as a factor in classification. The difference between programs that can field full varsity and JV teams and those that can’t is usually a pretty good indication as to strength of program. And the number of seniors a team lost from previous season should also be a factor. This is common sense and why would that matter? Great Post !! It's pretty simple Schools with Multiple JV and MS Programs (60 + Players ) AAA - These programs are loaded with numbers and should be AAA Schools with JV + MS (40 - 60 Players) AA - Schools with 40 Players or Less VAR - MS A - Usuallly lots of 9 and 10th graders forced to play Varsity due to NO JV Co Op for multiple school programs B This is just the base factor and IS close to where we are now through the competitive formula. It is working well so far and Norwin and McDowell should be in A until they build up numbers. All of these are fine programs at different stages of development and should be celebrated regardless as these students achieve a lifetime goal - Congrats to all! Edited March 20, 2022 by Pa Hockey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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