PUCKCOVID19 Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 Anyone ever heard of this yet? They are playing in the NEHL........ and going by the name Pittsburgh River Monsters.....
kid310050 Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 I saw this on Facebook a couple of days ago, I was wondering if this was a Black Bear creation since they were playing at Printscape.
Saucey Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 They were looking for people to try out a few days ago
zam Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I never understood "Semi Pro" ? Does this mean the players are paid? And who are the perspective players? I assume it can't be junior age players or potential college players. So it must be aged out players with no other options besides Beer League? And who are the perspective fans? I know beer league is lucky to have 1 or 2 mostly disinterested girlfriends per night. Maybe I'm wrong but is it a high level of play that would attract area fans?
sadday4hockey Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I doubt there's anywhere near enough money involved for BB to be a part of it in any form other than selling them ice. As Zam said, who will the fans be and how much could you possibly charge for entry? Financial viability seems limited at best. 1
JerryTime Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Doing the math not sure how feasible this is... Using info from the site. Each player gets ~$150/week and the season is 24 weeks. Each team will sign 30 players. $108,000 for players alone. 24 Home Games Per Season at $5 ticket. Need 900 fans per game to pay players. Edited July 12, 2023 by JerryTime
Wes Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 22 hours ago, kid310050 said: I saw this on Facebook a couple of days ago, I was wondering if this was a Black Bear creation since they were playing at Printscape. Link?
Saucey Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 To be fair, what low level team sells enough tickets to cover expenditures?
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Wes said: Link? https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091950467063 1
ice is cold Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Looks like the owner is jaison kelly per their website. Go ahead and Google, would love to hear everyone's first thoughts.
PUCKCOVID19 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Posted July 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, ice is cold said: Looks like the owner is jaison kelly per their website. Go ahead and Google, would love to hear everyone's first thoughts. and...... so sounds just like every other faux AAA owner as well he was just caught
nemesis8679 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 THIS Jaison Kelly?! 😂 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wpxi.com/news/local/ag-shapiro-files-lawsuit-against-pittsburgh-area-car-dealership/PLXFYP4PD5BSNANDBY33FYFA6E/%3foutputType=amp Would almost have to be, I can't see there being many Jaison Kelly's around here with that name spelling. If it is, the guys a stooge and a conman. If I was a player, I'd make sure to get my money upfront. 1 1
Pucks11 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said: THIS Jaison Kelly?! 😂 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wpxi.com/news/local/ag-shapiro-files-lawsuit-against-pittsburgh-area-car-dealership/PLXFYP4PD5BSNANDBY33FYFA6E/%3foutputType=amp Would almost have to be, I can't see there being many Jaison Kelly's around here with that name spelling. If it is, the guys a stooge and a conman. If I was a player, I'd make sure to get my money upfront. Same Jaison Kelly. Definitely something sketchy when he is involved.
nemesis8679 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Pucks11 said: Same Jaison Kelly. Definitely something sketchy when he is involved. Whats his connection to high level hockey?
Wes Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said: Whats his connection to high level hockey? Good question. Never heard of that name in regards to hockey.
ice is cold Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Wes said: Good question. Never heard of that name in regards to hockey. Facebook tells me he has a younger son who plays at NP, maybe he is making sure he has a semi pro future. Lol 1 1 1
forbin Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 From what I can tell it’s full contact traveling beer league? I really don’t understand the draw to that from a player or a fan perspective but to each their own I guess 🤷🏻♂️. 1
aaaahockey Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 7 hours ago, JerryTime said: Doing the math not sure how feasible this is... Using info from the site. Each player gets ~$150/week and the season is 24 weeks. Each team will sign 30 players. $108,000 for players alone. 24 Home Games Per Season at $5 ticket. Need 900 fans per game to pay players. See below. Daddy throws 20k at the team per player and suddenly they are in the green and little Johnny gets to tell everyone he played for a check.
ice is cold Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, forbin said: From what I can tell it’s full contact traveling beer league? I really don’t understand the draw to that from a player or a fan perspective but to each their own I guess 🤷🏻♂️. I guess if you are playing beer league now and can get paid $150/game vs a 6-pack it is compelling. From a fan perspective.... I've got nothing....
nemesis8679 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Why not just go to a Pitt/RMU/Nailers game if you want to watch competitive non-pro or semi-pro hockey? If they're getting paid $150/week, that doesn't even cover the travel... or does this simpleton think he's going to cover those costs, too? This makes no sense. Or is this a scam to get sponsorships, close up when there's no money to continue, and keep the change? 1
aaaahockey Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 If your parents throw in 10k a piece (likely less then they are paying for faux AAA at lower levels) a couple sponsorships get you all the ice you need and your parents might even save money based on travel + whatever they were doing before.
aaaahockey Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Also see 3ice where the Prince of ice castle played last year (at least in Pittsburgh). How that stuff makes money beats me! 1
ice is cold Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, aaaahockey said: If your parents throw in 10k a piece (likely less then they are paying for faux AAA at lower levels) a couple sponsorships get you all the ice you need and your parents might even save money based on travel + whatever they were doing before. According to their website, which I can't figure out the math...all they pay for is exhibition and housing (so id assume no one is moving for this, so Pittsburgh players) Earn around $150-$250 per week in salary Travel (transportation, food and lodging) provided Zero fees, other than during the exhibition season ($20 per skate) Up to 4 uniform sets Maximum of playing and practicing 3 days a week Games played during the weekends Bonuses awarded for performance, playoff wins and team sales Detailed stat tracking, will be on Elite Prospects All games filmed and live-streamed All-Star Game, Stadium Game, Outdoor game and International Game 25 skater spots and 3 goalie spots on every team Up to 20 teams in the league Region heavy travel
sample39 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 History has a funny way of repeating itself. Do your homework on the Mid-Atlantic Hockey League (MAHL) in 2007-2008. If this new league actually gets off the ground, I would expect a similar demise.
Pucks11 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, nemesis8679 said: Whats his connection to high level hockey? Absolutely nothing! He stacks beer league teams and brags about championships. 1
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