Jack Handey Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I heard the Vengeance just acquired another PAHL goalie, this time from North Pitt. In mid-October. Can anyone confirm? Also, why can't the Vengeance seem to retain goalies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: I heard the Vengeance just acquired another PAHL goalie, this time from North Pitt. In mid-October. Can anyone confirm? Also, why can't the Vengeance seem to retain goalies? Do you know what age group? I might be able to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jack Handey said: I heard the Vengeance just acquired another PAHL goalie, this time from North Pitt. In mid-October. Can anyone confirm? Also, why can't the Vengeance seem to retain goalies? Are you sure that they aren't just replacing the goalie that was poached from them by the Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad23 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Bantam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 If this is happening this late into the season then that is f’d up, Vengeance set their rosters back in mid-June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbin Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I am assuming either '07 or '11 based on the rosters on their site currently only listing 1 goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saucey Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 07. Pens poach late in the season, too, so since Vengeance want to be the Pens, guess they need to follow their crappy behavior, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Now, we're turning the burners up to high. Mid-October, people realize that their team expectations were too high coupled with parent dreams being crushed make for great theater on here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, sadday4hockey said: Now, we're turning the burners up to high. Mid-October, people realize that their team expectations were too high coupled with parent dreams being crushed make for great theater on here. This is so spot on, I have nothing to add here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Vengeance 09 poached the 09 goalie from Esmark. Graciously Vengeance"made some calls" and got him into the poached goalie's spot at Esmark.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tendymom said: Vengeance 09 poached the 09 goalie from Esmark. Graciously Vengeance"made some calls" and got him into the poached goalie's spot at Esmark.? That was like September too right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendymom Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Yes indeedy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldPucker Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 IIRC Rosters are not set for national bound teams until December 31. If the parents want to eat whatever costs are associated with jumping teams so be it... The players, parents, and coaches from the team you left might see it differently and hold it against you..... even if they would jump at the same offer.... Nothing new to see here, move along...... Or pass the popcorn, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeydadlife Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 07 vengeance don’t look very dominant and neither does the north Pitt results. Probably not going to make any waves other than on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 7:21 AM, hockeydadlife said: 07 vengeance don’t look very dominant and neither does the north Pitt results. They have the worst record of all vengeance teams. They are rated below 4 local AA teams. They are currently out of the running for mid-am. So to spark the team, they gobble up the goalie from another losing team. Is this a good strategy to turn things around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack Handey said: They have the worst record of all vengeance teams. They are rated below 4 local AA teams. They are currently out of the running for mid-am. So to spark the team, they gobble up the goalie from another losing team. Is this a good strategy to turn things around? You know things are not good with Vengeance 07 when Tri-State, Indy Jr. Fuel are ranked higher and they are currently #7 out of eight teams for Mid-Ams. And to gain four points on a current rank of 88.9 to get into the top four qualifiers that is nearly impossible to do. But I am sure the new goalie's parents are extra proud of their now AAA level son for getting "the call." Edited October 20, 2021 by fafa fohi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saucey Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 07 is another low BY. Soon there won't be any left in PAHL, just like the 05s, since all the independent teams will need their parents' check books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey55 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Is there any truth to Vengeance and Esmark trading 09 11 year old goalies??! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 hours ago, hockey55 said: Is there any truth to Vengeance and Esmark trading 09 11 year old goalies??! Lol I think it was discussed elsewhere on here. Wasn't a trade. Vengeance cut their 09 goalie at the start of the season and added the Esmark one. Esmark picked up the kid who was cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 11:26 AM, fafa fohi said: top four qualifiers Its top 6 but you know........ whatever fits the narrative, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dazedandconfused said: Its top 6 but you know........ whatever fits the narrative, right? correct top 6 bc mid am needs that extra money !!! but should only be top 4 bc the 5 and 6 normally struggle come districts anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey55 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 8 hours ago, aaaahockey said: I think it was discussed elsewhere on here. Wasn't a trade. Vengeance cut their 09 goalie at the start of the season and added the Esmark one. Esmark picked up the kid who was cut. They cut a 11-12 year old goalie in the fall after they named him or her on the team in the spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Actually, with the growth of hockey in Western PA and Columbus, they should have left it at 8. Take these factors into consideration. 1. With PE now starting the out of town/state/country influx at 13U - you now have some pretty good players looking for a home and it is usually Esmark, Barons or Vengeance/Preds. In that order. Plus you now have both TriState and Indy Fuel as part of the TPH family so there really is no reason to limit it to 6. Would 5-8 have a legitimate chance? No, but neither do teams with a 5 seed or higher in the NCAA basketball tournament. This covers 14/15/16U. 2. At 18U you add in both Gilmour and Culver so why not 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, hockey55 said: They cut a 11-12 year old goalie in the fall after they named him or her on the team in the spring? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dazedandconfused said: Actually, with the growth of hockey in Western PA and Columbus, they should have left it at 8. Take these factors into consideration. 1. With PE now starting the out of town/state/country influx at 13U - you now have some pretty good players looking for a home and it is usually Esmark, Barons or Vengeance/Preds. In that order. Plus you now have both TriState and Indy Fuel as part of the TPH family so there really is no reason to limit it to 6. Would 5-8 have a legitimate chance? No, but neither do teams with a 5 seed or higher in the NCAA basketball tournament. This covers 14/15/16U. 2. At 18U you add in both Gilmour and Culver so why not 8? bc NOT EVERYONE is a winner.... it SHOULD be top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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